【發表日期】2012年2月5日
【譯 者】寒姿
【校 對】車幹
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【摘 要】中俄對安理會敘利亞決議說NO，引發西方政要及媒體一片嘩然，罵聲、威脅聲不絕于耳。然而，外國網友對西方操縱聯合國、對別國實施入侵的伎倆早已司空見慣，對中俄投反對票熱情贊揚，對西媒的污蔑報道一片斥責。以下是美國赫芬頓郵報網友對該報兩篇相關報道的評論。
【譯 文】
《俄羅斯、中國對聯合國敘利亞決議投否決票引發群憤》報道下的網友評論
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/05/russia-china-veto_n_1255990.html
●Rubiconski（頂1043次）
這是美國一慣的伎倆。他們給這個國家的暴徒武器，許之以國家權力和巨額財富，然后便坐觀這個國家騷亂暴動，并指責當地政府引發了這一切，再請求全世界加入他們以匡扶正義和平。
這個公式已經一再地被推行。
●grizzly bear55（頂231次）
中南美洲是美國右翼推行的樣本。
現在他們正用同樣的戰術以確保中東地區沒有一個單獨的國家能對以色列構成威脅。
不幸的是這方法在中南美洲并不奏效，在中東也不會得逞。
●RomeoMD25（頂285次）
很難相信美國人會蠢到一直陷在他們政府說的謊言中。難道美國人真的相信敘利亞總統會眼睜睜看著美國給殺人犯們錢，并和自己說，嘿，我想不幸折磨著我們的人民所以美國佬會派這些殺人犯們過來幫助我和我的家庭？有意思的是這還是發生在美國自己正鬧著經濟危機的時候。愿上帝保佑俄羅斯和中國。
●songoftherushes（頂323次）
安全法則：如果希拉里•克林頓同意這個觀點，那就懷疑吧。
●Y2KCockroach （頂339次）
希拉里，聯合國并不會正式準許西方介入敘利亞政體改革，所以美國和他的政治盟友就得編造一堆謊言為他們的入侵正名了。
現在我知道了美國以前從來都沒有做過這種事，但是……，哦，還是再等等吧。
●Danish5666（頂167次）
偽君子們都在扎堆扮憤怒。
●clearasmud（頂1051次）
我相信大多數美國人都會同意你的觀點，許博。我們都厭倦了戰爭和沖突。但是，在我們丟棄了如今控制美國的卡特爾軍事工業和經濟體制之前，沖突和戰爭不會結束。越來越多的美國人正意識到他們正失去了民主和自由，民主妥協于企業王國的寡頭政治，自由讓道給愛國法令和相關法律。
如果真相被揭開，美國和“被控制”的中國就沒什么不同。抗議被暴力警察鎮壓，人們不經控告便被囚禁，所有電話和郵件被全天侯監控。美國人現在甚至可能因為總統的心血來潮被政府暗殺。
但是，和中國人不同的是，美國人只會承受更多，反對公司和他們推選政客的浪潮正一路高漲。不管如何，我們終將獲勝。
●clearasmud（頂1051次）
因為一些真實原因上的啟示，事情正朝著原來的軌道發展。
塔爾圖斯（敘利亞）基地是美國在中東的軍事發展中最重要的地盤之一，這就是俄羅斯要阻礙西方將自己的意愿強加給敘利亞的原因。
《西方害怕俄羅斯阻攔安理會通過敘利亞決議，而莫斯科恰恰這么做了》報道下的網友評論
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/evelyn-leopold/syria-united-nations-russia_b_1255055.html
●Countess（頂1457次）
當全世界看到美國毫無緣由地入侵伊拉克而且接著殺害10萬多人后，他們都“被惡心到了”（譯注：“被惡心到了”是賴斯對中俄投反對票的評價）。所以我認為，他們不需要對我們洗腦，辯解殺人的正義性。因為到目前為止，我們還是“勝利者”。
●Neil Tall Eagle（頂81次）
所以人們什么時候才能明白，俄羅斯和中國，甚至可能印度，都受夠了建立在美國石油美元之上長達五十年的藩籬，所以他們現在能足夠堅挺地轉去支持另一種貨幣，甚至可能是黃金！
●jabbaciv（頂364次）
日漸頻繁的戰爭鼓點的確非常惹人關注，并且值得任何歷史系的學生關注。
因為我們的戰爭（和許多其他的）費用都是從別的國家借來，比如中國。如果我們決定和中國不想讓我們一同上戰場的人一起上戰場會怎么樣呢？如果我們決定和俄羅斯不想讓我們一同上戰場的人一起上戰場又會怎么樣？這就是我們在澳洲北部設立新海軍基地的原因么？這就是導彈防御設施被遷至歐洲的原因么？
●LMPE（頂1384次）
你不能指望每個國家都按你的意愿投票。
●OneTop（頂1597次）
“美國大使蘇珊賴斯說她被那些“助長不可一世獨裁者氣焰”的否定票“惡心到了”。
先把這種世界偽善階級放出的言論放在一邊吧。
敘利亞很復雜，因為它擁有無數個種族宗教派系。遜尼派大概占了全國70%的人口，剩下的30%由什葉派，德魯茲族，庫爾德人和基督徒組成。
阿薩德（什葉派）是少數民族，但他擁有一支裝備精良的部隊和來自30%少數民族人口的支持。當包括遜尼派軍隊逃亡者在內的抗議者端起了武器，少數民族迅速地站在了阿薩德這邊。
他們十分畏懼遜尼派掌權的前景。至于他們的畏懼是真的抑或出于想象并不重要，因為他們已經清楚表明了支持阿薩德的立場，哪怕是僅僅為了尋求保護。
敘利亞正處于內戰的初始階段，從實際角度來看，聯合國對于阿薩德下臺的制裁并不能得到執行。阿拉伯世界有許多超越了國界的聯盟和利益，它們能進一步把這潭水攪混。比如說，沙特家族（遜尼派）害怕什葉派的影響力，（伊朗，敘利亞）畢竟并不想失去自己的統治，把天賦神權生生讓給像民主這樣的蠢東西。
抗議者們失去了非暴力運動的戰略性優勢，現在正面臨著將舊的宗教和種族派系撕裂的流血沖突。即使也有著不少優勢，他們也不能寄望在沒有外力支援的情況下取得勝利。
●Paperless Tiger（頂794次）
敘利亞政府是與恐怖主義作戰。在Homs發生的襲擊是一起恐怖襲擊。大部分受難者是阿拉維派教徒，他們被恐怖分子近距離射殺。政府軍隊炮轟的是恐怖分子。媒體撒謊了。
●Pauline Jaing（頂285次）
已經有多少人在利比亞、阿富汗、巴基斯坦、伊拉克等地死去或是傷殘了？這難道還不夠讓你們這些華盛頓的瘋子們罷手嗎？
你們這種水平的說辭真是讓人不關注都不行。
我猜想你們是在準備和俄羅斯以及中國開戰，因為當你們對巴勒斯坦申請加入聯合國教科文組織投反對票的時候，我沒有提醒他們像這個樣子說話。
你們少說這種話會死啊！還是你們所有新保守派的猴崽子們以為你們能信口開河而不付出任何代價？
●wom122（頂181次）
俄羅斯人已經受夠了，我不想指責他們。90年代他們眼看著自己的同盟塞爾維亞被北約轟炸，又在不久前忍受了美國干預他們的后花園——喬治亞蘇維埃共和國的事務。在敘利亞問題上，他們不會允許和用來為干預利比亞正名的決議相似的另一個決議得到通過。
【原 文】
Russia, China Veto Of Syria UN Resolution Sparks Outrage
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/05/russia-china-veto_n_1255990.html
●Rubiconski
1043 Fans
This is how the USA operates. They arm thugs inside a country. They promise them power inside that country and great wealth. They then sit back as riots and violence occur and condemn the Government for causing them . They then implore the world in joining them to bring peace and security.
This formula has been followed over and over again.
●grizzly bear55
231 Fans
Central and South America are the example on how the US right wing operates.
They are now using the same tactics to make sure not a single country in the middle east can be a threat to israel.
Unfortunat¬ely it did not work in South and central America, and it will backfire in the middle east.
RomeoMD25
285 Fans
Its hard to believe that the americans are stupid enough to constantly fall for the lies that the government spews,Do the american people honestly believe that the president of Syria would watch u.s paid criminals murder Gaddafi & say to himself,He¬y i think ill brutalise my own people so the americans can send there paid murderers to do that to me & my family? Funny how this is going on at the exact same time as the u.s is having problems financiall¬y,Thank God for Russia & China.
●songoftherushes
323 Fans
Safe rule: If Clinton is for it, be suspicious¬.
●Y2KCockroach
339 Fans
Well Hillary, the U.N. isn't going to rubber stamp the West's attempts at regime change in Syria, so in the alternativ¬e the U.S. and its political allies might just have to build a stack of lies upon which to justify an invasion.
Now I know that the U.S. has not ever done that before, but.......¬... oh wait......
●Danish5666
167 Fans
Al the Hypocrites has come together in their fake outrage.
●clearasmud
1051 Fans
I believe most Americans agree with you Bo Yu. We are tired of the wars and the conflict. But, until we can dump the Military Industrial and Financial Cartel that controls America the conflicts and wars will never end. More and more Americans are realizing that they have lost their Democracy to a Corporatoc¬ratic Oligarchy, and their freedoms to the Patriot Act and companion laws.
If the truth were to be uncovered, America is just as "Controlle¬d" as China. Protests are put down with violent police response. People are jailed without charges. Monitoring of all phones and email 24/7. Americans can now even be assassinat¬ed by their government on a president'¬s whim.
However, unlike the Chinese, Americans will only take so much, and the tide is rising against the Corporatio¬ns and their bought politician¬s. We will prevail, one way or the other.
●clearasmud
1051 Fans
For a little enlightenm¬ent on some real reasons things are happening the way they are.
"...it is the Tartus base that is arguably one of the most critical locations for the US military vis-a-vis developmen¬ts in the middle east. And here is why Russia will block any attempt by the west to impose its own will in Syria."
West Dares Russia to Block Syria Action at UN - Moscow Does Just That.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/evelyn-leopold/syria-united-nations-russia_b_1255055.html
●Neil Tall Eagle
81 Fans
So when are people going to realize that Russia, China, and perhaps even India... are fed up with fifty years of western hedgemony built on the US petrodolla¬r, and are damned well strong enough now to switch to another currency, or perhaps even gold...!
jabbaciv
364 Fans
This ever-incre¬asing drumbeat for war is very concerning¬, and should be for any student of history.
Given that our wars (and much else) is funded by borrowing from foreign countries, like China, what happens if we decide to go to war with somebody China doesn't want us to go to war with? What happens if we decide to go to war with somebody Russia doesn't want us to go to war with? Is that the reason for the new Marine base in northern Australia, and the missile defenses being moved into Europe?
●LMPE
1384 Fans
You can't expect every country to vote how you want.
●OneTop
1597 Fans
"U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice said she was "disgusted¬" by the vetoes that "prop up desperate dictators.¬"""
Setting aside the world class hypocrisy of this statement for a moment.
Syria is complex as it has more than a few ethnic and sectarian factions. The Sunnis are roughly 70% the remaining 30% are Shia, Druze, Kurds and Christains¬.
Assad (Shia) is in the minority, however, he has a well equipped army and the support of the 30% minority. The minority quickly sided with Assad as soon as protesters including Sunni army deserters took up arms. They genuinely fear the prospect of Sunni rule. Whether their fears are real or imagined matters not at this point as they have clearly sided with Assad, for protection if nothing else.
Syria is in the beginning of a civil war and from a practical perspectiv¬e, UN sanctions regarding Assad stepping down can not be enforced. The Arab world has a lot of alliances and interests that transcend national borders which further muddies the waters. For example, the house of Saud (Sunni) fear the influence of the Shia, (Iran, Syria) after all they do not want to lose their rule by divine right to something so silly as democracy.
The protesters lost the strategic advantage of non-violen¬ce and are now faced with a bloody conflict split along age old sectarian and ethnic lines. Even with the numerical advantage they cannot hope to prevail without external help.
●Paperless Tiger
794 Fans
The Syrian government is fighting against terrorism. The attack in Homs was a terrorist attack. Most of the victims were Alawites, shot at close range by terrorists¬. Government troops were shelling the terrorists¬. The press lied.
●Pauline Jaing
285 Fans
How many dead and maimed in Libya, Afghanista¬n, Pakistan, Iraq etc. did it take for you Washington lunatics to get out?
The level of your rhetoric is cause for great concern.
I take it you are preparing for war with Russia and China, because I do not recall them speaking this way when you vetoed the applicatio¬n of the Palestinia¬n Authority for UNESCO?
How does one step back from this level of rhetoric, or are you all Neocon CHILDREN who think you can speak this way and get away with it?
●wom122
181 Fans
The Russians are fed up and I don't blame them. They watched their ally Serbia bombed by NATO in the 1990's and they endured US meddling in the affairs of Georgia, their very backyard not too long ago. They will not allow another resolution to be used in a way that justifes a Libya-styl¬e interventi¬on in Syria.
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